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		<title>Domainer Idiocracy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Domainer logic&#8221; goes something like this: Generic descriptive domains are great assets because they get type-in traffic, are easy to remember, and therefore can save entrepreneurs big money that would otherwise have to be spent on &#8220;branding&#8221; a Web address. Due to their inherent greatness, value, traffic generation . . and domainer savvy . . [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>&#8220;Domainer logic&#8221; goes something like this: Generic descriptive domains are great assets because they get type-in traffic, are easy to remember, and therefore can save entrepreneurs big money that would otherwise have to be spent on &#8220;branding&#8221; a Web address.</p>
<p>Due to their inherent greatness, value, traffic generation . . and domainer savvy . . the VAST majority of generic descriptive domains are held by . . . domainers.</p>
<p>One consequence of domainer logic is that the development of generic descriptive domains has been held up,  a bit, since many potential domain endusers look elsewhere when confronted with domains that are already registered.</p>
<p>Had vast numbers of generic domains NOT been snatched up by domains IS IT possible that a significant number of the large, &#8220;established in the market&#8221; players might have registered those same great generic domains?</p>
<p>Probably.</p>
<p>Would those same established companies have developed those domains? </p>
<p>Probably not, as most large players in any vertical &#8220;already have a brand&#8221;. Therefore, a great generic domain would likely have served only as a redirect, not as a &#8220;new brand for an existing player, at least for the past 10-15 years.</p>
<p>But what about the newcomers? Would an emerging regional bank have opted to use Bank.com as its Web address? That wouldn&#8217;t surprise me. And on the story goes.</p>
<p>Of course, building a brand on Pets.com does not guarantee success. However, Diapers.com and Soap.com proved that the right domain plus a knowledge of the industry can take you far enough to either impress . . or worry . . the likes of Amazon.com</p>
<p>So while we, the self-titled domainers, hold sway over many great generic descriptive domains &#8211; by virtue of a certain domain institutionalized idiocracy, i.e., NOT developing the great domain platforms ourselves  &#8211; the very proof of the greatness of generic descriptive domains &#8220;as development platforms&#8221; has been hampered, delayed, hamstrung.</p>
<p>Ergo, when we wish to argue how &#8220;potentially great&#8221; or, better yet, &#8220;great in potential&#8221; our domains are . . and how well they can and will work . . we, the domainer community, are just a little bit . . light on the proof of the argument. Call it a self-inflicted wound, the stuff of a certain . . systemic . . idiocracy.</p>
<p>Perhaps our eyes are slowly opening. Perhaps we want to test the merits of our own arguments. Perhaps the loss of PPC revenue, alone, is enough of a kick in the pants to move from domainer to developer. </p>
<p>Whatever the reason, more than a few other domainers &#8211; all of whom have taken a hit on their PPC revenue &#8211; are now working on developing the proof of the value of their generic domains.</p>
<p>And yes, before you get your knickers in a knot, I too am a member of the domainer idiocracy, one who is working on raising his development IQ.</p>
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		<title>Domain Parking Versus Domain Development &#8211; Part 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the decline of PPC income from domain parking there has been an ongoing conversation and debate about the merits and opportunities of domain development, i.e., building content rich websites, versus continuing with the lazy man&#8217;s riches model of domain parking. Before you choose which way to go let&#8217;s Let&#8217;s start with some simple math. [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>With the decline of PPC income from domain parking there has been an ongoing conversation and debate about the merits and opportunities of <strong>domain development, i.e., building content rich websites</strong>, versus continuing with the lazy man&#8217;s riches model of <strong>domain parkin</strong>g. Before you choose which way to go let&#8217;s Let&#8217;s start with some simple math.</p>
<p>First, you need to read and thoroughly grasp a somewhat concept dense prefatory comment. (Yeah, I just said concept dense prefatory comment, which means I&#8217;ve chosen my words carefully.) Here it is: </p>
<blockquote><p>IF you have done a decent job of optimizing 2-stage domain parking landers for your generic commercial intent domains, so that the initial landing page is populated with a variety of relevant-to-the-domain keyword phrase links, for which phrases their is significant ad inventory, then it&#8217;s possible to generate clickthrough rates (to the second page) and ad click rates in the 20-50%+ rate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Let&#8217;s work with 20%, which means 1 in 5 visitors will find and click on a relevant ad, for which action you are paid $.XX or more. So, if your domain generates type-in 10 visits a day, which is no easy task for most domains (remember there are millions of parked domains), that works out to 2 clicks a day. At $.25/click that domain generates $.50/day or more than $150.00/year. That&#8217;s not a bad performance for a parked domain. (I&#8217;m not talking about 1 word mega-domains but the decent 2d or 3rd tier commercial intent domains, the ones with search volumes that are smaller but not insignificant.)</p>
<p>Now, assume you unpark the domain and start to develop it, intending to rely on contextual advertising supplied by Google, a/k/a (also know as) Adsense ads.</p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve read and observed a clickthrough rate of 1-2% is fairly common for websites that rely upon contextual advertising for their income stream. This assumes you have created a website that isn&#8217;t &#8220;littered with ads&#8221;, i.e, masthead or banner + large &#8220;in your face, above the fold box(es) + tower + Adlinks + Adsense for search . . all on one page. The I suspect &#8220;smart pricing&#8221; on such ad-centric pages can have a negative effect on PPC amounts resulting in $.02 clicks.</p>
<p>So, you have gone from a 20% clickthrough rate to a 1.3% clickthrough rate, which means that in order to keep earning the same amount you likely have to increase traffic to the domain by about 15 fold or 1500%. That is, with the lower CTR or clickthrough rate you will have to generate 15x more visitors, since they are less inclined to click ads, in order to break even.</p>
<p>To sum up: 20% clickthrough rate versus 1-2% clickthrough rate means having to increase traffic to the &#8220;developed domain&#8221; by about 1500%. So, instead of 10 visitors a day you will need 150 to 200 visitors a day. Just to break even, after incurring the expense of development.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the simply math of developing a domain name into a website versus parking a domain name. </p>
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		<title>Can An Aftermarket Domain&#8217;s History Affect Its Value?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 16:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can a checkered &#8220;spam or blackhat SEO&#8221; history affect a domain&#8217;s value in the domain sales aftermarket? Yes. See this video, at Google Webmaster Help Central, by Matt Cutts discussing the impact of domain history on search ranking once the newly purchased, previously owned and developed domain, goes live for a new website. So, how [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Can a checkered &#8220;spam or blackhat SEO&#8221; history affect a domain&#8217;s value in the domain sales aftermarket?</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>See this video, at Google Webmaster Help Central, by Matt Cutts discussing the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/GoogleWebmasterHelp#p/u/31/iKDlEKnT1Ko">impact of domain history on search ranking</a> once the newly purchased, previously owned and developed domain, goes live for a new website.</p>
<p>So, how do you check a domain&#8217;s search engine history? Well, it&#8217;s not as simple as buying an account with DomainTools and looking at the WhoIs history.</p>
<p>To check an older domain&#8217;s &#8220;development history&#8221;
<ul>
<li><a href="http://Archive.org">Check Archive.org</a> to see if you can find any history.</li>
<li>Search for inbound links to the domain. The anchor text of those links might give you some idea of how it was used in the past. If the anchor text is optimized for pills, porn or casinos you might want to talk away.</li>
<li>Search Google, Bing, Ask and any other search engine to see if there are any results for your new project. If not that may indicate &#8220;prior bad SEO acts&#8221;.</li>
<li>Search for the domain itself to see if there are any lingering traces of spam-like efforts to spam forums, guest books, etc.</li>
</ul>
<p>A history of prior bad use may not forever damn or damage a domain as a candidate for development BUT a prior history of blackhat or spammy use may be a basis for negotiating price since more work and effort may be required to bring the domain to life in the search engine results.</p>
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		<title>Review of Sedo Domain Brokerage Service</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As some of you may know I moderate the Domain Name Forum at WebmasterWorld and have been active in the domaining world for more than a decade. I don&#8217;t sell many domains since a) most of my domains are held for eventual development; and, b) most inquiries are . . eh . . misguided? Ill-informed? [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>As some of you may know I moderate the Domain Name Forum at WebmasterWorld and have been active in the domaining world for more than a decade. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t sell many domains since a) most of my domains are held for eventual development; and, b) most inquiries are . . eh . . misguided? Ill-informed? BS? </p>
<p>When I do sell I don&#8217;t use brokers. </p>
<p>Over the years I&#8217;ve been contacted by self-proclaimed brokers but not all brokers are up to the game (though some are improving). </p>
<p>For example, IF you want to call yourself a &#8220;professional broker&#8221; then do NOT convey an offer just because you are asked/instructed to by your &#8220;principal&#8221;. Offers that you (should) know will be deemed a waste of a potential seller&#8217;s time only undermine the chances that I will ever open another email from you.</p>
<p>Recently I was contacted by Sedo about two &#8220;non-essential&#8221; domains, one&#8217;s that were &#8220;on the list&#8221; for eventual development but not rising up the list ahead of other projects. </p>
<p>The initial offers were lowly but not offensively so. I think I one case I just ignored the first &#8220;ping&#8221; (Are you interested in selling . . ?) type email or the second email (Buyer offers low $$$$ . . ) email.</p>
<p>In one case Sedo returned a few weeks later with an improved offer. In the other the email exchanges just quickly got down to business.</p>
<p>These weren&#8217;t big deals but they weren&#8217;t lunch money. Both mid-$$$$. </p>
<p>What worked for me?
<ul>
<li>Offer, counter, new offer emails moved back and forth quickly once the ball got rolling. (Since brokers don&#8217;t get paid unless they &#8220;do the deal&#8221; I guess they&#8217;ve got reason to keep things moving.)</li>
<li>No issue with buyer covering all costs (I don&#8217;t need nor did I ask for a broker . . so why should I pay? There was no debate. If there was one . . well . . Ever hear of a deal-killer? :-/)</li>
<li>Domains pushed to Sedo&#8217;s account @ Moniker so transfers are handled the way I prefer: Push!</li>
<li>Prompt payment.</li>
</ul>
<p>When it comes to hunting or doing business I&#8217;m a fan of a &#8220;clean kill&#8221;. This was pretty much the case. Again, no &#8220;big deal&#8221; but, that being the case, all the more reason for wanting to get down to business, get it and get out.</p>
<p>Having never done business via Sedo&#8217;s brokerage service I didn&#8217;t know what to expect. Having been through the process I can report that I found their process satisfactory, from start to finish.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A good question to ask yourself, when contemplating your website’s “brand name” and whether to choose a &#8220;to branded website domain name” versus &#8220;the domain name that is the generic name of the product or service you plan to offer&#8221; is &#8220;What is our budget for building and maintaining the &#8216;meaning of the branded domain&#8217; [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>A good question to ask yourself, when contemplating your website’s “brand name” and whether to choose a &#8220;to branded website domain name” versus &#8220;the domain name that is the generic name of the product or service you plan to offer&#8221; is &#8220;What is our budget for building and maintaining the &#8216;meaning of the branded domain&#8217; TO MAKE IT MEAN what the keyword domain &#8216;already means&#8217;&#8221;?</p>
<p>How much do you have to spend or plan to spend to help make the connection, in consumer’s minds, that your branded or catchy domain name &#8211; say FizzleBip.tld &#8211; is the name of a website where people can get mortgage quotes?</p>
<p>FizzleBip.tld or MortgageQuotes.tld?</p>
<p>When contemplation “our brand” remember that &#8220;brand&#8221; stands for much more than a name or symbol. The brand-name or brand-symbol are merely references to or associated with the user’s experience OF your product or service. In other words, brand exists in the experience. The brand-name or brand-symbol are merely associates, not executives, so to speak. Experience -&gt; execution, making of the brand experience. Words or symbols -&gt; associations.</p>
<p>People labor about &#8220;branded domains&#8221; when I think they really should be laboring and focusing on &#8220;user experience&#8221;. Get the experience of the the product or service or website as an experience right and, if you do, you can use an onion or tomato or potato sack as your &#8220;brand image&#8221;. Likewise, if you have the money and talent to get image hosting as a service working and you could call your service Flickr and it will work, at least until the money runs out for free image hosting.</p>
<p>When it comes to choosing a brandable domain versus a generic descriptive domain for a website you need to ask &#8220;How much money, time and effort will it take to associate the branded domain with the service/goods?&#8221; That will be a function of the industry&#8217;s competitiveness, amongst other factors. It can be a very large sum/cost. Also, the cost of branding efforts may be perpetual if you are a small to mid-size player.</p>
<p>When you have the industry&#8217;s generic name as a website name the costs of &#8220;making the association&#8221; likely drop significantly. That cost or savings needs to measured against the cost of acquiring the generic, descriptive domain.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read the title again. Any questions? Still don&#8217;t get it? Then you really should find another line of work. Inserting this < >>> or !!!!!!!Example.com!!!!!!!!!!!! in a domain name forum subject line is just a waste of bytes and screen space. Likewise, inserting superlatives into a subject line such as &#8220;REALLY GREAT!&#8221; or &#8220;SUPER OPPORTUNITY&#8221; [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Read the title again.</p>
<p>Any questions?</p>
<p>Still don&#8217;t get it? </p>
<p>Then you really should find another line of work.</p>
<p>Inserting  this < <<<<<<< Example.com >>>>>>>>> or !!!!!!!Example.com!!!!!!!!!!!! in a domain name forum subject line is just a waste of bytes and screen space.</p>
<p>Likewise, inserting superlatives into a subject line such as &#8220;REALLY GREAT!&#8221; or &#8220;SUPER OPPORTUNITY&#8221; will never transform a sow&#8217;s ear of a domain into a silk purse domain.</p>
<p>Instead, such forum practcies make you &#8211;  the domainer/poster who employs such tactics &#8211; come across as naive, desperate, pathetic, or worse &#8211; someone who thinks that adding a few spicy words to a post will blind others to the obvious: That your domain(s) suck. </p>
<p>Even worse, by using such tactics you are implicitly addressing yourself to your audience as if you believe them &#8211; those who participate or read &#8211; to be gullible morons.</p>
<p>Are there gullible morons in this world? Surely. Someone has to buy what spam is meant to sell. But, really, do you  want to share in aura of the spammer&#8217;s ill repute? Really?</p>
<p>You want to know what works, besides actually doing your homework before speculatively registering a domain hoping for a resale? Try this: Just post your best domain name(s) in the subject line of any forum thread that you start and, IF your domain name(s) have merit AND you have priced them correctly &#8220;for the market&#8221; &#8211; the domain name aftermarket mostly being comprised of penurious, opportunistic, domain piranha, looking to pay no more than 1-5% of an expected enduser value.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s life. </p>
<p>Domain name forums are where shoddy domains go to die, despite all sorry efforts to breathe life into them.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been teaching others about &#8220;How to Buy a Domain Name from a Private Owner&#8221; for years, by answering related questions posed at WebmasterWorld.com, where I moderate the Domain Name Forum. Despite my best efforts it appears the world hasn&#8217;t yet learned how to do it, so allow me to outline my view on the [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I&#8217;ve been teaching others about <em>&#8220;How to Buy a Domain Name from a Private Owner&#8221;</em> for years, by answering related questions posed at WebmasterWorld.com, where I moderate the Domain Name Forum.</p>
<p>Despite my best efforts it appears the world hasn&#8217;t yet learned how to do it, so allow me to outline my view on the best approach.</p>
<p>First, understand that most folks who have held domains numbering greater than &#8220;a few&#8221;, for more than a few years, likely have received hundreds if not thousands of inquiries about their domains over the years. At least that&#8217;s the case if they were any good at picking them. </p>
<p>When contacting someone about buying an older quality aftermarket domain it behooves your to assume that the domain registrant is likely a) as smart, if not smarter than you, about domain related issues; b) has some business savvy, including how to negotiate deals; and, c) has received countless poorly crafted inquiries about their domain holdings. </p>
<p>Assuing the above your approach, when contacting the registrant of a quality domain about possibly buying that domain, needs to reflect a) respect for their intelligence; b) actual business negotiation savvy on your part; and, c) a clear indication that you respect and value their time.</p>
<p>How do you do this? &#8220;The answer&#8221; to how to effectively negotiate for the purchase of an aftermarket domain is simple.</p>
<ul>
<li>First, research domain name values. IF you don&#8217;t have a decent grasp of values then don&#8217;t bother emailing.</li>
<li>Places to perform domain value research: DNJournal.com&#8217;s weekly reports of &#8220;confirmed sale values&#8221;. Sites like NameBio. Domain forums such as DomainState or DNForum. (There&#8217;s much more to talk about concerning value, but you can also always ask a pro for guidance.)</li>
<li>With a firm appreciation of at least a range of likely aftermarket values (actually a working range of values for your target domain) <em>make your offer to purchase the domain by including an actual cash offer in your initial contact.</em> For negotiation purposes you can proceed with a lower number that you are prepared to pay or a plain and factual statement that &#8220;It&#8217;s your best offer&#8221;.</li>
<li>Now, here&#8217;s the secret of success: <strong>Put your initial offer for the purchase of the domain IN THE SUBJECT LINE of your email.</strong></li>
</ul>
<p>It&#8217;s really that simple. &#8220;It&#8221; being the answer to the question: &#8220;How do I effectively make an inquiry about whether a domain registrant would be interested in selling me their domain name?&#8221;</p>
<p>By putting an intelligent monetary offer in the subject line you greatly increase the odds that your email will actually be opened and read. If you can&#8217;t get past the issue of having your email read you have already lost any chance of making a deal. This advice, of course, assumes you also did the part about researching values and made an offer within that range of value.</p>
<p>Due to the volume of email received by successful domain registrants many domain owners won&#8217;t even open emails without a clear sign of intelligence in the subject line, especially email coming from Yahoo, HotMail, GMail, etc. All signs of &#8220;nonsense to come&#8221;. </p>
<p>Just putting &#8220;Example.com&#8221; in the subject line OR &#8220;Is Example.com for sale?&#8221; in the subject line shows no intelligence and no capacity to make a deal. None whatsoever. And most will tell you that years of experience has taught them that such offers might as well have a subject line that reads &#8220;FAIL, Don&#8217;t Bother Opening&#8221;. And many won&#8217;t open the email or if they do they won&#8217;t take any further action since most inquiries, constructed in the FAIL manner, do in fact fail to go anywhere.</p>
<p>So, you want to get someone&#8217;s attention? Show something that will get someone&#8217;s attention.</p>
<p>To borrow a line from Jerry Maguire, in the realm of aftermarket domain purchases and sales: &#8220;Show me the (respectful, intelligent) money!&#8221;</p>
<p>Put your opening offer to purchase right up there in the subject line: &#8220;Offer $50,000.00 to Purchase Example.com&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, those who know anything, know the last example given also has &#8220;Fail&#8221; written all over it, because no one can ever own Example.com. <img src='http://internet-marketing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>If you haven&#8217;t read any of my posts at WebmasterWorld.com, where I moderate the Domain Name Forum, I suggest you start by reading what I&#8217;ve written about determining an aftermarket value of domain names based upon the <a href="http://www.google.com/#hl=en&#038;source=hp&#038;q=site%3AWebmasterWorld.com+domain+converted+lead+value&#038;aq=f&#038;aqi=&#038;oq=&#038;fp=c5aa4278f68e4a4">value of the sales, customer or client leads the domain generates</a>. </p>
<p>Basically I&#8217;ve called this model (I think I&#8217;ve coined the phrase, as applied) the &#8220;converted lead valuation model of domain price appraisal&#8221;. Shorthand version: <strong>converted lead value</strong>. (Feel free to disabuse of me the idea that I coined the phrase. The raw concept &#8211; that domain names deliver traffic/visitors that have inherent value &#8211; has been around since the first person registered a so-called &#8220;type-in domain&#8221;.)</p>
<p>The basic concept is this: People who type-in domain names are often people very focused on finding &#8220;what the domain describes&#8221;. Yes there are others who type in domain names, such as those who are &#8220;just curious&#8221; or those checking to see if a domain is either registered or associated with a live website.</p>
<p>Then there are those who are &#8220;in the market&#8221; for what the domain describes, by which I mean &#8220;generically describes&#8221;, i.e., a generic descriptive domain. (NOT a typo of a widely known and/or exclusive trademark.)</p>
<p>Those who are &#8220;in the market&#8221; tend to be those ready to buy, to consume, to enter into a dialogue about doing business. Ergo, such visitors/typists can be considered to be &#8220;read to convert (buy) . . leads&#8221;.</p>
<p>So, how does this analysis apply to valuing aftermarket domains or making decisions about how much to pay? The basic math of the model works this way or &#8220;has these variables&#8221;:
<ul>
<li>What is the volume of traffic the domain delivers? More traffic means higher value.</li>
<li>What is the income generation and profit potential of entering into &#8220;a deal&#8221; (sale, contract, etc.) with any one of those visitors? High lead values, to enduser consumer of those leads, should mean higher values.</li>
<p>Example: If a domain delivers 50 visitors a year and, of those visitors, 15 are actively looking to tranact business around the subject of their &#8220;type-in query/search&#8221;, and if such focused visitors are likely to convert &#8211; in part, due to your skills/offer &#8211; at a 50% rate, and if such converted leads produce a revenue stream of $500 or $5000, then: 15 x 50% = 7.5 x $5000 = $37,500 in revenue value (not saying profit) <em>just from</em><em> the direct navigation or type-in traffic of the domain.</p>
<p>Forgettting any other benefits derived from simple, meaningful, generic descriptive domains &#8211; such as any SEO benefit, memorability benefit, inbound link anchor text benefit, aural/radio benefit, etc.</p>
<p>So, what is a domain worth in the aftermarket if it generates $37,500 A YEAR in added revenue? Revenue that is insulated from the ups and downs of search engine rankings? That depends, in part, on profit margins. However, once you have a handle on a domains revenue potential you should have a better idea of why some domains command far greater prices in the aftermarket.</p>
<p>That &#8220;built in revenue stream&#8221; of generic descriptive domains is often why a domain will command a value in the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars. </p>
<p>Think: Loan.com, Mortgage.com, CreditCards.com and move around from there.</p>
<p>As an attorney I know first hand the converted lead value of generic, descriptinve direct navigation domains. </p>
<p>So, next time you ask yourself &#8220;Do I really want to buy RealEstate.com? The seller is asking sooo much!&#8221; don&#8217;t forget to ask yourself the follow up question: In the evolving and increasingly complex and competitive landscape of online marketing what&#8217;s my advantage?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say &#8220;owning the generic name of the service&#8221; &#8211; general (Plumber.com) or geo-targeted (City+Plumber.com) will remain an advantage you can take to the bank, year after year.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Mike Berkens, the lead auther of the website <a href="http://TheDomains.com">The Domains</a>, asks the question &#8220;Is The Sale Of Poker.Org For $1M A Game Changer?&#8221;</p>
<p>His answer? &#8220;We Say Yes&#8221;.</p>
<p>I hold a few .Org domains so the sale and the commentary naturally drew my attention.</p>
<p>Arguing that any single <strong>aftermarket domain name sale</strong> lifts all gTLD associated (.Org gTLD) values is a hard sell. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s Mike&#8217;s perspective. Anyone who is excited about the sale influencing their.Org domain portfolio&#8217;s value is likely deluded. Temporary delusions are part of the domain aftermarket business, good for registries and registrars. Bad for the domainer. (All of us included at some point in our careers.)</p>
<p>Generally, in the aftermarket, you might see 5% as a historical &#8211; and across the board &#8211; &#8220;relationship equation&#8221; between the value of .Com and related .Org domains. I&#8217;m not a proponent of pegging domain values to reported aftermarket sales, a matter I&#8217;ll address another time, but it&#8217;s a data point of some use to some folks &#8211; especially when they are on the buy side of better domains. <img src='http://internet-marketing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>What drives .Org values higher than 5% of a related .Com value? Some of the more important predictors of value include:</p>
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<li>Do a significant number of people &#8220;expect a website&#8221; at the location, that is, &#8220;Is the .Org domain well suited to the gTLD&#8221;? (Tourism.org versus DownParkas.org)</li>
<li>Is the .Org&#8217;s subject &#8220;highly commercial&#8221;? (Investing.org versus Handkerchiefs.org)</li>
<li>If the domain name&#8217;s &#8220;topic is commercial&#8221; what value does the market place on that commerce? (Poker.org vs. Gardening.org)
</li>
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<p>The sale of Poker.org for $1,000,000.00 isn&#8217;t an across the board game changer for the aftermarket value of .Org domains. It may be a leading indicator that the development community is prepared to accept that certain domains <em>work so well for developed websites under the gTLD</em> that .Org aftermarket values may be a bit higher than once &#8220;accepted&#8221;.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I surrender. To necessity. To practicality. To reality. I&#8217;m choosing to develop certain domains because there is more money &#8220;in them&#8221;, i.e. the monetization potential of the domain names is inherent in the domain itself. I&#8217;m talking finance, insurance, law, etc. . . not the arts. I&#8217;m also not talking long term development potential. I&#8217;m [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I surrender. To necessity. To practicality. To reality.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m choosing to <strong>develop certain domains</strong> because there is more money &#8220;in them&#8221;, i.e. the monetization potential of the domain names is inherent in the domain itself. I&#8217;m talking finance, insurance, law, etc. . . not the arts. I&#8217;m also not talking long term development potential. I&#8217;m talking rapid development.</p>
<p>There is so much more to this world that I would prefer to invest myself into, to become a part of, to advance. The domains I&#8217;ve sought, pursed, acquired reflect that: arts, music, culture, travel, good works, more . .</p>
<p>Then, there are my &#8220;money domains&#8221;. Mammon. Lucre. </p>
<p>I feel like I sell my soul a bit, like I lose something &#8211; to choose to focus on money making projects], but there are mandates to life.</p>
<p>Does anyone else feel the pain of having domains that reflect or represent something about yourself that, for whatever reasons, you just have not yet &#8220;done anything with them&#8221;?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m struggling here, with issues of balance and necessirty and the love lost in letting go for some greater good. In this case the greater and right and necessary one of &#8220;paying the bills&#8221;. </p>
<p>Do your domains remind you of your unfulfilled dreams or hopes or promises to yourself? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not looking for an uplift, nor to bring anyone else down, but it seems to me that the undeveloped domains we hold are about as concrete a metaphor or representation/manifestation of our unfulfilled dreams as any I have met.</p>
<p>Thoughts for a Sunday morning. </p>
<p>Are your undeveloped domains . . unfulfilled visions, dreams, goals, hopes?</p>
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